A fellow blogger who has a great grasp on the realities of No Kill in his state of Delaware issued this post and I think it is important enough to pass along to the Devore readers, be they friend or foe. http://delawarecapa.blogspot.com/2012/11/the-blame-game-of-no-kill.html
Sunday, November 11, 2012
The Blame Game of No-Kill
In the past week, I've watched the no-kill movement blame everyone but themselves for animals that
die every day in our shelters. There have been articles and Facebook posts about the ASPCA,
HSUS, PETA, Best Friends, and the never ending whining about the "trolls" and "sockpuppets"
that disagree with their movement. Now seriously, this is the movement that our Governor and
legislators went to for the writing of our "shelter standards" law called CAPA.
ASPCA Claim - One Example
Clearly the movement has no grasp of reality. For example, here was one of the statements against
ASPCA Claim - One Example
Clearly the movement has no grasp of reality. For example, here was one of the statements against
the ASPCA:
Now let's look at how many animals the ASPCA could save at that same rate.
Considering Mr. Winograd has in the past acknowledged that 4 million animals die in animal shelters
"One argument that people like to make is that organizations like the ASPCA use some of the money for its intended purpose. And with nearly $150,000,000 a year now in revenues, how
can they not? But it is a question of potential: are they doing enough given their immense
wealth? The answer is No. They could save 1/4th of all animals killed in U.S. shelters, rather
than fewer than some rescue groups do." - Nathan Winograd's Facebook Page
So lets look at the costs per animal in Washoe County to test that theory. Washoe County in
Nevada is the community that Mr. Winograd uses in his Dollars & Sense - The Economic Benefits of
Washoe (Reno) - $7,800,000 Budget / 15,000 animals = $520.00
Now let's look at how many animals the ASPCA could save at that same rate.
ASPCA - $150,000,000 Budget / $520 per animal like Washoe =
288,462 additional saved
Considering Mr. Winograd has in the past acknowledged that 4 million animals die in animal shelters
each year, 1/4 of those animals would be 1 million. He appears to be off by about 711,538 animals.
This must be the "new math" of the No-Kill movement.
I'll even ignore the fact that the ASPCA already provides million in grants to shelters across the
I'll even ignore the fact that the ASPCA already provides million in grants to shelters across the
country. So according to these calculations, an additional 288,462 would be saved,
but 3,711,538 would still be dying. So his desire for their $150 million in funding would amount to
one of those tiny little band-aids you place on a pin prick.
In addition, this would take away the ability of the ASCPA to investigate cruelty cases, assist those
In addition, this would take away the ability of the ASCPA to investigate cruelty cases, assist those
animals seized in cruelty cases, provide disaster training and response, their equine fund,
spay neuter services, or any of their other services. So who in their right mind would want to take
these services away from our animals, and if those services were no longer provided, the fact is
donations would drop tremendously anyway. So the logic is just ludicrous.
Delaware's Legislature Buys This?
What bothers me most is that our state leaders actually buy into this crazy logic with their continued
Delaware's Legislature Buys This?
What bothers me most is that our state leaders actually buy into this crazy logic with their continued
support for CAPA. I look forward to seeing the minutes for the upcoming Delaware Animal Welfare
Task Force Meeting on November 15, since they will be discussing adding enforcement to this
misguided legislation. I'm just wondering how much more money our state can waste on
investigations, bickering, and creating an environment that is harmful to our animals.
Maybe they should consider who responds to cruelty, hoarding, and disasters in our state,
as well as representing our state assisting other states when they make their decision about CAPA.
Here is the Form 990 of the No-Kill Advocacy Center (Expenses $321,210). Expenditures include
“The Humane Society of the United States is thankful for the assistance of New Jersey SPCA andKent County SPCA. With the help of our partners, our response to this disaster hasresulted in the rescue of hundreds of animals in New York and New Jersey,” - The Paramus Post"What Does No-Kill Spend Their Money On?
Here is the Form 990 of the No-Kill Advocacy Center (Expenses $321,210). Expenditures include
$147,048 producing a movie to convince people that No-Kill works, $90,415 for their annual
conference, $60,000 Salary, and $54,206 providing guidance and support with publications like
Dollars & Sense discussed above.
Here is the Form 990 for No-Kill Nation (Expenses - $283,076). Their notable expenses were
Here is the Form 990 for No-Kill Nation (Expenses - $283,076). Their notable expenses were
$119,482 for Program Expenses which they list as conferences, $22,545 in advertising, and
only $22,898 in awards and grants.
In fact there is even a new No-Kill fundraiser underway. Is it to save those animals that they claim
In fact there is even a new No-Kill fundraiser underway. Is it to save those animals that they claim
the other organizations neglect to? Of course not!!! The No-Kill movement is not about saving
animals, it's about creating a brand identity, like the name sewn on someone's backside wearing
those $500 jeans. So the movement needs funds to try to silence anyone that disagrees and speaks out about their tactics against organizations like PETA and HSUS.
These were my favorite statements from the site:
"In response to this — and other efforts to undermine the No Kill community — we have setup a fund to counteract slander and libel. This will be a sum of money, equally divided between No Kill Nation and the No Kill Advocacy Center. It will be put towards efforts (already underway, and successful) to sue those who spread libelous disinformation about No Kill.
Mr. Cooper is donating all of the digital proceeds from three of his novels to No Kill, for at
least the next six months. If you buy these novels, the proceeds will be automatically deposited
in our bank account. Alternately, you can leave a donation through PayPal, via the link at the bottom.
Hence, for as little as 99 cents, you can read a novel, and simultaneously contribute to No Kill’s Anti-Slander Fund." - NoKillFund.com
At first I thought it was a joke, but when I checked the Whois record, the site is owned by No-Kill
Nation. What a shame that money that should be spent saving animal lives, is instead being spent
on a website to promote a fiction author and threaten dissenters.
sunk to new depths reminiscent of playground bullies. As we know, bullies never accept
responsibility for their actions, and blame the world for their mistakes and failures. I guess that's
why No-Kill feels it's necessary to attack other organizations. It seems the No-Kill movement thinks
that the world is picking on them, but that's not the case, we're just pointing out that their logic
doesn't work.
This is all charity fraud. These are businesses performing business operations and falsely claiming charitable status.
ReplyDeleteThey are also lobbying and charitable laws are strict on how much of the activity and money goes to lobbying. THey alsdo need to be registering as lobbyists, and they are breaking rthose laws in both state and federal law.
They also don't own any No Kill brand. It was around long before them.
Suing people will however do nothing more for them than expose this fraud, because when they persecute people with harassing lawsuits they only make people speak out more and do more research and digging. This kind of activity will hurt them, and they seem to be too stupid to figure this out.
Winograd No Kill is clearly doing nothing but committing fraud to enrich the people running it.
They are providing ZERO services to animals- no spays or neuters being paid for, no shelters being opened, no spay neuter clinics, nothing. It just goes into their pockets and lobbying and that is illegal.
I still can't believwe they are trying to get breeders and rescue people to give money to rich people like Winograd and his associates to defend themselves when they do illegal or corrupt things.
Won't this "legal fund money" be used to refund the rich man who funded his wife's lawyer with a loan? I thought I read about that money trick somewhere, some sort of money game. In other words, into the pockets of Winograd's associates to benefit them personally.
ReplyDeleteExcuse me while i fall on the floor laughing.
ReplyDeleteOne of Winograd's affiliated businesses solicits money for rescuing dogs, doesn't give it to rescue efforts or rescuers but instead puts it in the pockets of their employees then
Some No Kill rescuers raise questions about the money dodge, so some rich woman's husband loans more than a hundred thousand dollars to Winograd's affiliated business to pay a lawyer to harass the No Kill rescues who spotted the money dodge and asked about it
AND NOW
the breeders and some childishly gullible no killers are being asked to give their money to refund the loan for the lawyers to sue NO KILL RESCUERS that are supposed to be spending their money already caring for the pets so Winograd claims the credit and then gets them to buy his junky books and pay for his junky seminars?
I realize that breeders have a reputation for not being too smart, but Winograd now has them looking like complete fools. Breeders paying for a few rich people to fool around and have big egos.